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NOTES for Joh 8:58-59

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
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Readers of these lines usually think that He said something that the Pharisees had to perceive as obvious blasphemy: after all, He speaks of Himself as God, even using, as it may seem, corresponding expressions applied only to God. Yet in fact everything is not so simple and unambiguous.

In this case Jesus is bearing witness about Himself first of all as the Messiah, if not directly, then by hints. The prophets spoke of the Messiah as the One who exists from the beginning of the world. In Judaism of the Second Temple period, the common view was that the Messiah had been conceived by God before the creation of the world. In this sense people even spoke of the divinity of the Messiah, though of course not in the sense of His being the God-man. But the Savior's words could also be understood in more than one sense. Even "I AM" (more precisely, the Greek and Hebrew expressions corresponding to this "I AM") can be interpreted not only as a declaration of divinity, but also as a proclamation of theophany, in particular, of messianic theophany. There was nothing in the Savior's words that, on mature reflection, should have required stoning.

It is another matter if one very much wants to find a reason to grab stones. Then, of course, all ambiguities are interpreted against the accused. And the Pharisees listening to Jesus evidently understand His words in just this way. Not because there is too much in them that is openly provocative. What was provocative was something else: the entire meaning of the Savior's speech as the evangelist gives it. For the whole speech bore witness that the Pharisees listening to Jesus were not at all the bearers of authentic Tradition and guardians of orthodoxy that they were in their own eyes. More than that: it turned out that, with all their religiosity, they essentially had very little relation to authentic Tradition, if they had any at all. And to a religious person, such a position seems by definition to be a challenge to God.

Such a person truly does not see the difference between authentic Tradition and the tradition of his own religion. With desire, of course, one can see it, though it is not always simple. But in a religious person this desire is often outweighed by fear for his own religious identity, which he will inevitably have to give up if he looks at himself and at the world as Jesus calls him to look. It is this fear that makes the Pharisees grab stones. And it lays out the Savior's road to the cross.

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For Joh 8:51-59
51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
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For some reason, it often seems improper and tactless to us to bear witness to our faith. We can somehow manage to say that we believe in God and go to church...  Read more

For some reason, it often seems improper and tactless to us to bear witness to our faith. We can somehow manage to say that we believe in God and go to church. But when the truths of the faith come up, we become remarkably timid. Characteristically, we may argue fiercely with brothers and sisters in the faith, yet in conversation with an unbeliever we are so eager to steer around every difficult point and say, “Well, that is a complicated question... I do not really know...” Jesus speaks bluntly: “If I said that I did not know Him, I would be a liar like you.” It might seem an overconfident claim: I know the Father Himself! But false modesty is entirely foreign to Jesus. He speaks only the truth and does not make it His aim to “spare the feelings” of listeners who may be “unready” for that truth.

What does this mean for us? When we firmly know the teaching of the Church, we have no right to smooth over the difficult points and say that we do not know, are unsure, or were merely passing by. Refusing to bear witness to the truth is already a lie.

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For Joh 8:51-59
51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
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Throughout the whole eighth chapter of the Gospel of John, the Jews, or more precisely, the scribes, that is, the intellectuals, ask...  Read more

Throughout the whole eighth chapter of the Gospel of John, the Jews, or more precisely, the scribes, that is, the intellectuals, ask Jesus who He is. And yet His answer, repeated more than once in different forms, "the One who exists from the beginning," "the Light of the world," "I came forth from God and have come," is as though they do not hear it. Or do not want to hear it. In the end, the Truth revealed to them proves unacceptable to them, beyond the capacity of simple human reason. After all, everyday logic truly cannot grasp that the Jesus of Nazareth standing before them is the Christ, the Savior of human beings, God going to death out of love for His creature.

Meanwhile Jesus does more than affirm His divine nature. All the time He is trying to make His listeners think about the choice His coming to earth places before them: between light and darkness, between slavery to sin and freedom in God, and finally between life and death. And when the conversation reaches this last boundary, their inability to receive the Message, and the necessity of faith that comes from the heart rather than the intellect, produces only aggression in His listeners, and they rush at Christ with stones. One should not think that such a reaction to divine revelation belonged only to the intellectuals of the first century AD.

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For Joh 8:51-59
51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
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What made the people listening to Jesus pick up stones? Obviously, His words about Abraham and about Himself. "I Am" (or, in modern Russian, "I am the One Who Is") meant a reference to...  Read more

What made the people listening to Jesus pick up stones? Obviously, His words about Abraham and about Himself. "I Am" (or, in modern Russian, "I am the One Who Is") meant a reference to Himself as the One who bears within Himself the fullness of God. Such a thing was not forgiven: in the eyes of any religious person, it was outright blasphemy. One could be a prophet or even the Messiah, but one could not be God. Whoever declares such a thing is either mad or a pagan, for pagans believed in the "divinity" of certain people, meaning their supernatural qualities or their connection with the world of the gods. This Man does not look mad, so, as can be seen, He must be an apostate who has imagined Himself to be some supernatural being in the pagan sense of the word. In any case, apostasy and blasphemy were evident, and they were punished by death.

It would seem that one might expect something like this from the Messiah; for example, Isaiah of Jerusalem did call the Messiah "father of eternity." But in the Judaism of Gospel times, these words were understood in the context of ideas about the Messiah whom God had conceived from the beginning of time. Naturally, no one considered the Messiah to be God.

And Jesus, as can be seen, wants to bring precisely this truth to His listeners, a truth inseparable from His earthly ministry. Indeed, He came into the world in order to bring the Kingdom into it, and in all its fullness. The Kingdom that from the very beginning He carried entirely within Himself, since, according to His own words, it is "not of this world" - nowhere in the world, except in Him Himself after His birth into the world, could the Kingdom exist. And the fullness of the Kingdom of God and the fullness of God are, in essence, one and the same: the One who contains within Himself the fullness of the Kingdom also contains the fullness of God.

This, apparently, is what Jesus wants to explain to the people listening to Him. And He does this not in order to exalt Himself somehow, but in order to make them understand what the Kingdom is, what it is really like. But to understand this, one must go beyond the frames of one's own religiosity. And they do not want to do this, or cannot do it - and they pick up stones.

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For Joh 8:31-59
31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?
49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.
50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.
51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
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The next, harshest words of Jesus are addressed to... Jews who had believed in Him. Evidently, they believed in some way other than the Lord wanted. Therefore we too need to think: do we believe rightly, or...  Read more

The next, harshest words of Jesus are addressed to... Jews who had believed in Him. Evidently, they believed in some way other than the Lord wanted. Therefore we too need to think: do we believe rightly or not? They proudly declare that they were born free, being children of Abraham, the chosen people. Therefore they do not need freedom, for they are not slaves, and they do not need the truth, for they already know it. They call God their father, but this already follows from their belonging to the holy people; no step is required of them in order to be adopted by the Lord.

And what is most frightening is that all this is characteristic not only of the Jews. Do we not believe in the same way? Do we not consider ourselves chosen people who have freedom and truth in our pocket, and who have long since been God’s own people? If so, why do we need to believe in Jesus? Let us think about this...

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